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Interview: Gemma Moore x Rufina Muraviova - 10.03.22

Interview: Gemma Moore x Rufina Muraviova - 10.03.22

The conversation was documented and written by Gemma Moore BA (Hons)

Rufina: I feel sometimes the words ending in 'ism' are lost terms and sometimes we use these terms without really knowing the history of the world. For example, when something was created 100 years ago, it is not exactly the same now. I think we should remember where we are now; we are in the digital era, everythings different, and there are so many movements that are trying to change inequality between men and women. I find that when I am talking to people, for example my friends in France now about why these problems happen and many times no one knows why they happen. From my point of view and my experience, there is a big issue with education in schools. Not only in the school, but in fact in families. And the same about young boys and girls.. I have noticed how differently young boys and girls are treated by family members... Young boys are encouraged to solve the problem, whereas young girls are told to wait to solve the issue. Even in this example we educate boys to be stronger and to find ways around issues and finding solutions. Whereas girls are taught that they will be helped out by a male. These small events affect us into our adulthood. So many small files have been put into our minds that say, "you can't do it." Many issues start in the home. Attitudes in the home have sometimes meant that women don't feel as if they can do things. In my opinion, a lot of the issues we see today come from imbalance. We need to change education.

Gemma: This is so interesting because it is reminding me of Primary socialisation. Rufina: Yes, if you are talking about school education at the age of 6 or 7. School gives us lots of knowledge but school is only a few hours in the week, whereas home is all of the evenings, nights, Saturdays, Sundays and the holidays. Girls need to be taught how to self care and value themselves and to be strong so that they can care for not only themselves but also each other. This links back to education. Many of your works remind me of my own, and it reminds me of the work that I made during my studies. Listening to our experiences helps to make our creative stamp in the world. I think it would be great to have workshops with families learning together about how to re educate younger people about equality.

Rufina's artwork is a personal investigation into her life experiences, migration, place of women in modern society, seeking a new balanced dialogue between men and women. In my works I show society through the eyes of a migrant woman, "your place - my place", "inside - outside", "private - public", I study the law and learn about all global changes. I am actively involved in the life of the society surrounding me. I cooperate with the Association for Women’s Art and Gender Research in Israel Please explore more here:

The conversation was documented and written by

Gemma Moore BA (Hons)

Personal Pronouns: She/Her

Herefordshire Visual Artist


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